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election, shoot him. >> joy: all right. thank you. thanks to all of my >> jennifer: i'm jennifer granholm. tonight in "the war room," take a guess. ♪ [♪ theme music ♪]
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>> jennifer: individual mandate gun control, abortion -- oh hi there. just doing a little cleaning up. i don't need these flip flops anymore. although i'll keep a few of them. just throwing them away. i know it's unattractive to gloat, but let me allow ourselves to luxuriate for just a moment. it was a triumphant night. >> obama: tonight in this election, you, the american people reminded us that while our road has been hard while our journey has been long we have picked ourselves up.
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we have fought our way back and we know in our hearts for the united states of america the best is yet to come. [ cheers ] >> but it wasn't such a good night for the republicans who can't seem to get it. poor things. they have got their blinders on. they have got their feet in cement. they are still refusing to acknowledge that the world has evolved; that their universe of while maleness deficit obsession, zero tax pledges, and their 20th century love affair with trickle down is no more. the world has changed, the american people have grown. minorities are occupying a larger and larger sector of the government. women have been able to vote for a while now. people understand when they have been given the shaft, and yet the republicans have their
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fingers firmly inserted in their ears, eyes closed granting nah, nah, nah, nah, because what they really believe is they can make up for the changing demographics by changes us. instead of trying to win over the american people with good ideas and smart policy they tried to pull the wool over our eyes. they tried to hood wing us. how? let me count the ways and the dollars. the republicans worked really hard on their strategy. first they worked hard to raise lots of money. the republican party, and it's affiliated superpacks they raised and spent nearly $3 billion on ads in this election. and all of that asking for money is really hard work, and they spent a lot of time doing that and then they spent that money
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of course on lots of ads. those ads often had embarrassing lies. and then third they carefully, strategically, dressed up mitt romney as, well, first a conservative in the primary, and then as a moderate and the poor guy, he was mocked cease lesly for being a moral flip flopper. and then what i went to state legislatures and adopted all sorts of laws to limit the vote. and they worked hard at that. but after all of that hard work and frankly after their
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humiliation in many of their strategies, their plan still didn't work. they still didn't win. so what gives? here is what gives. the people saw through all of it, and yet, the gop still can't seem to come up with a better game plan. today they kept hammering the same old thing. here is dick morris on fox news. >> we need to understand just how weakly this president was reelected. by the skin of his teeth. we need to stand up against this socialist agenda, and stop him from fundamentally changes the united states. >> jennifer: block him at all costs? isn't that exactly why the american people rejected the republican party yesterday? and yet leading conservative thinker, grove norquist actually doubled down on this failed
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ideology, he wrote, last night voters confirmed the status quo of the 2010 election, which brought a strong united republican majority in the house, and enough republican senator, he said to filibuster any particular piece of legislation, and a weakened, but reelected president. but that's not really true. in fact many candidates who took norquist's pledge were actually voted out last night. at least 55 republican house incumbents or candidates and 24 republican senate hopefuls lost yesterday. in fact, of the 15 house republican incumbents those who were already there, they lost reelection, every single one of them had signed the pledge.
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and yet republican mouthpiece like laura ingraham won't admit that the strategy is just not working anymore. she wrote today on her blog, quote . . . >> jennifer: and rush limbaugh said there was no way voters could have rejected their poison's ideology. so the vote must have been rigged. >> we suffered a setback folks, but we have not given up on our principles, and that's important. nobody is giving up, but we are facing reality here. we are either out-numbered and are losing ground or one of the most outrageous thefts in an
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election has taken place. >> jennifer: so have the far right conservatives learned anything? here is kevin williamson of the national review who said . . . and some conservative commentators have suggested that the loss of mitt romney was due to the candidate alone. mitt romney, they say, he was just a lousy candidate. but here is the thing. it is not mitt romney. it is the policies of the republican party that caused the loss, like their gop platform. proof. let's take a look at the state ballot initiatives that passed
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yesterday. gay marriage passed in four states and avoided a ban in another. marijuana laws were loosened in three states. three other states voted down new tax cuts. the republicans stuck to a strategy of secrets and lies and outdated ideas because they thought with all of their work that we would fall for it they thought that the people were that dumb. well guess what republicans, much to your chagrin, the people are not dumb. no matter how much you underestimate the intelligence of the american people we saw right through your malarky. last night was a victory for brains. you had blinders full of women. we had binders full of policies and the truth, and itted's fitting that on a night when nate silver's 53 blog was
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glorified, that the greatest triumph of all is of the intelligence. the nerdiness, perhaps of the american people over the forces of tricky and ignorance. our country was founded by driven courageous men who used their intellect and reason to form this more perfect union, and last night showed that their spirit lives on in the brilliant american people that they continue to inspire. coming up, home sweet home the obamas return to the greatest house in the world. plus years from now, republicans are use the tea party as a cautionary tail. and later the republicans view of women is mired in the past not surprising then that the
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>> jennifer: so the look on ed helms in the movie the "hangover," when the crew wakes up to realize the party is over and now there is work to be done, it must have been like that all over washington, d.c. today. there are major issues the white house and congress have to confront immediately, like the looming fiscal cliff and avoiding that disaster is going to require both sides to compromise. president obama in his victory speech made it very clear where he stands. >> obama: you voted for action, not politics as usual. you elected us to focus on your jobs, not ours. and in the coming weeks and
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months, i am looking forward to reaching out and working with leaders of both parties to meet the challenges we can only solve together. >> jennifer: and so despite everything i said in the first block, actually there was hope today. you had house speaker john boehner who actually opened a door that many people thought was shut. >> for the purposes of forging a bipartisan agreement that begins to solve the problem, we're willing to accept new revenue under the right conditions. >> jennifer: what? so does speaker boehner mean what he says? here to answer that question and more, is host of "viewpoint," and former new york governor eliot spitzer. welcome inside "the war room." >> i like being here. >> jennifer: i was just railing about the far-right republicans -- >> i heard you from miles away.
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>> jennifer: but despite the denial, john boehner gave this statement today to suggest that revenue could be a part of a grand bargain. >> yes, but -- there was classic boehner and cantor. it was quintessential republican double talk. we are now at the moment where you have got to put your cards on the table if you are going to get an agreement. it's now november. >> jennifer: but put their card on the table by saying we would consider revenue -- they said it's the rates they are concerned about -- >> so they have got to close loopholes. >> jennifer: yes, of course. >> so we're back to the same -- [overlapping speakers] >> jennifer: raising taxes, right? >> but which loophole --
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>> jennifer: what will grove norquist say? >> as long as grover norquist matters, we won't have a deal. trying to understand the tea party psyche is like trying to get inside the mind of mad people. i like some of them but you can't understand the double talk. these tea leaves are the same that we saw all summer from mitt romney -- >> jennifer: that's because an election was coming -- >> that's why if i were the white house, i would say speaker boehner thank you very much second us exactly what you mean. the white house can't be lulled into giving the same offer it gave last time -- >> jennifer: but elliot what was interesting is boehner basically said this isn't going to happen in lame duck. >> right.
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>> jennifer: you and i both believe it's not in the president's interest to do anything in a lame duck -- >> but the president should say, hey, i'm happy to let the tax cuts expire and then i will second up a bill that will be a middle class tax cut exclusively, and you will have to decide pass that or do nothing. >> jennifer: this is part of this great dance that harry reid was talking about today. wait until the tax cuts expire -- and that's why he doesn't -- >> look, if that's the case then john boehner has accepted a deal that nobody thought he would accept. >> jennifer: okay. >> i don't buy it yet, because we just don't know enough. >> joy: but boehner loses some key tea party members, right?
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>> the most vocal man eye call crazed people are gone. >> jennifer: so does that give him more leverage? >> we played a little game on my show. i said imagine you are inside the first tea party caucus what do they say to each other? >> jennifer: they say the same things that i said in the first block that they were saying. >> if they believe that, then john boehner is still being held hostage unless he says i will pass this without them. >> jennifer: and your prediction? >> i don't know. i will not try to crawl inside of john boehner's mind. >> jennifer: we talked about this is a bit last night as we were looking at the election coverage. on the senate side harry reid
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now today starts talking about phil buster reform. >> yes. >> first of all i would get rid of the filibuster right away. >> jennifer: yeah. >> a majority is a majority and if you want to delay votes for a week, fine. but to stall them indefinitely i think is unconstitutional. you say to people hey, you are going to pay a personal price for doing this, and there would be far fewers. >> jennifer: we were both governors, and you need the leaders of the house and senate -- the senate -- mitch mcconnell doesn't need to be in the room probably. but you want nancy pelosi in the
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room and put together a package that everyone will jump on. you'll see the house vote to lower taxes on the upper class folks and middle class folks, but when it goes to the senate you know it won't matter. >> that's right. now the problem is all we got last year was symbolic votes. >> right. >> this is again where you and i think the president gains by waiting. the pressure is not on him right now. the republicans will crack and the president needs to understand he has got more leverage, he can just sit there and go -- >> jennifer: but any problem for the president and frankly with boehner who is willing to wait as well, is the business community. they will be freaking out --
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>> yeah look at the market today down 300 points -- >> jennifer: what is that about? >> i don't know. but i think ceo's came out and said revenue has to be part of this -- >> jennifer: this is why the president needs to use his bully pulpit to explain to the american people. >> exactly. >> jennifer: eliot it is so great to have you here. i know you are heading back to new york -- >> if it will ever stop storms. >> jennifer: up next the republican team just got carted into the locker room on a stretcher. we'll have a couple of college football players to explain
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themselves. j.d. hayworth, and duf sundheim will try to convince me that the gop shouldn't just forfeit the game.
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>>i jump out of my skin at people when i'm upset. do you share the sense of outrage that they're doing this, this corruption based on corruption based on corruption. >>i think that's an understatement, eliot. u>> i'm not prone tot. understatement, so explain to me why that is. i think the mob learned from wall st., not vice versa. >> in the hotly contested 8th district tammy duckworth is going to congress. >> we have joe donnelly defeat republican tea party-backed
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richard mourdock. >> dave the screaming behind you is because claire mccaskill was nominated. allan west appears to have lost to his opponent patrick murphy. >> jennifer: last night was just not kind to tea party republicans. four of its most famous faces went down in defeat. michele bachmann eked out a third term but it cost her a pretty penny, actually more than $20 million. she outspent her opponent 12-1 and she only won 50.59% of the vote. in all at least 47 tea party house remembers retained their seethes with the help of obscene amounts of money.
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so where does the gop go from here? tonight we're putting that question to j.d. hayworth and duf sundheim. who is joining me here in studio. i want to thank you both for bringing both ends of the spectrum. j.d. just two years ago, there were 60-newly elected lawmakers who swept into congress and now some of the most prominent among them went down in defeat so did the tea party overreach? >> no not at all. the fact is there is still a substantial majority you mentioned in this introduction jen, that the tea party is alive
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and well much to your chagrin. now 30 of the nation's governors are republicans. i think what we will see, both on capitol hill and at the republican national committee and across the kitchen table, is not self flagellation but a good self assessment, a healthy debate inside the party, understanding that principles endure, but methods may change and we'll have that debate in the days to come. >> jennifer: i'm interested in that. because you represent a different philosophy i think, duf. maybe i should use the world liberal side of the republican party. do you think the tea party overreached? >> we should all be happy about somebody who survived last night, and that's big bird. big bird survived. >> jennifer: whoo! >> but with respect to the
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concept of liberalism democrats and republicans make a major mistake if they think it is about ideology. last night was about listening and counting. the republicans did not count who was voting or listen to the concerns of what the voters were. and you saw some republicans who understood early on we were in trouble -- >> jennifer: meaning the republicans didn't listen to women -- >> women latinos, asians because we just keep saying we want less government. and then we just leave it out there. what we need to do is take the extra step and say we want government to be a partner, but make it more efficient, and get rid of everything else. the liberal conservative thing is really passe.
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>> jennifer: so j.d. you heard that from somebody who has a more expensive view of the republican party. what is your take on that? >> first of all, i'm not here -- i appreciate we're back to one of the television entertainment things. let's get two republicans together and have them fight. [ laughter ] >> jennifer: i just want to hear from your side. >> could i say a couple of things. let's begin with one common bond and that is the fact for the polling models and turnout we had big problems last night, and we're going to have to learn from that, but i think we can all do well regardless of to label or ideology to listen to the american people. but i don't believe the republican party can thrive by
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becoming democrat-like. >> absolutely. >> we have to move forward not in self flagellation but a healthy self assessment and part of this is the function of those elected. >> jennifer: all right. so let me play j.d. a sound bite from rush limbaugh. make a listen first. >> don't tell me the republican party doesn't have outreach. we do. but what are we sup poise to do now? in order to get the hispanic or latino vote, does that mean open the borders and embrace the illegals? >> jennifer: president obama captured almost 70% of the hispanic voters. so do you think rush limbaugh is leading the republicans into oblivion with that comment?
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>> i think which should take a look -- a very thoughtful piece written today by heather mcdonald. when we're talk about family values, it doesn't mean that uncle sam becomes a permanent part of the family handing out goodies. we need a thoughtful approach but we need not abandon the rule of law nor our principles to do so -- >> jennifer: but when you are talking about family values and they were raised as an american how is that not amnesty we should allow? >> i think we do need to allow these people to stay. they are the valedictorians and
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star americans, and then to say that they are not americans makes no sense at all. the way we're going to cam back and if we embrace a thoughtful immigration reform policy. and we need to be strong and fair and take leadership and ownership of that issue. the president now supported more people than anybody in the history of this country. >> jennifer: all right, j.d. should -- did you sign the grover norquist no taxes pledge? >> you bet i did. >> jennifer: do you think republicans should continue to sign these pledges blindly? >> there are people who are activists on both sides of the aisle. i do believe raising taxes would
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be a last resort -- >> jennifer: but j.d. i'm talking about pledging signing a pledge saying you will never raise taxes ever no matter what the circumstances are. do you think that is a smart move? >> i tell you what, i was very comfortable signing that pledge -- >> but do you think it's a smart move? >> i think that horse has already left the barn -- >> going forward -- >> there will be increased revenue -- the thing we need to do is get something meaningful in return. >> under clinton when they raised taxes we got welfare reform. i think it should be reducing the deductions -- >> jennifer: which is raising taxes on people. >> but we need something in return. >> jennifer: i agree with that. you guys i'm so sorry we have to
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end this great right on right fight. duf sundheim and j.d. hayworth. up next at attention washington that group of smart, strong competent and compassionate people are called women and they are awesome.
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north dakota heidi heitkamp overcame what were pretty discouraging polls and way out in hawaii by the time most of us all went to bed, the democrat won a promotion from the house to senate. another woman, deb fisher defeated former senator bob carey. and elsewhere, voters reelected six democratic women to the senate. and this bringing the total number of women senators to an unpress dented 20. joining me now is keli goff she
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is the political correspondent for the root. and the greet christine pelosi, chair of the california democratic party women's caucus. welcome back inside "the war room" to both of you. >> thank you. >> great to be back. >> jennifer: keli let me start with you? are women more excited to see the extremists defeated or to see so many women win? >> that's a tough one, but i would have to say, there seemed to be a lot of cheering going on whenever i would hear a mourdock or akin went down. and those weren't just from women, there were a lot of embarrassed guys that were happy. >> jennifer: there are a lot of
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moderate men who really are embarrassed. christine obviously last night was a great, great night for democrats, and it was because women and people of color provided a great firewall for the president. and that is only going to continue to grow right? >> absolutely. when you look at how the president won, it's president obama and democrats embracing demography as destiny. everybody saw the numbers, but the republican primary stayed pretty much pail, stale, and male. and sitting at the able to, at the leadership table, making these decisions are going to be
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for the first time a majority/minority democratic house congress caucus, and fabulous women in the senate who will be voting. >> jennifer: absolutely, and this is to you, again, christine. the president won 55% of the female vote. we know the republicans want to chip back into that. we hear it some at least think they have to change. how do democrats hang on to that? >> legislate. let's do three things. veteran's day is on sunday so showcase our women. two female military soldiers just elected. talk to the women who just got
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elected, the working moms who want to promote jobs. that's what we need to do. >> jennifer: all right. so keli according to the analysis from the center of research and learning if governor romney had won half -- i'm flipping to the youth vote or if millennials didn't vote in several states at all, the states would have flipped red. >> i read a column a couple of months ago, long before this whole conspiracy theory started taking over the nation. polling methodology today is still basically set up to undercount people who look like
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me. it's also low income people, and the reason that is the case because most polling is done by phone land lines. how many young people do you know have phone land loans? so i was looking at this data and interviewing pollsters who were acknowledging if you are polling for a race in a retirement community in florida, your number also probably be pretty accurate. so that's why i wasn't completely stunned that the turned out in bigger numbers than anticipated. i interviewed lisa butterfield jones, and she say she wasn't surprised at all. because there wasn't this
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enthusiasm gap that the rest of the media was covering all year long. >> jennifer: christine and keli are going to stay right where you are. after the break, progressives winning on social issues across the board and in states all across the country. we're finally dragging the rest of the country into the 21st century. that's next. and we'll be right back. without enough college graduates to fill them. that's why at devry university we're teaming up with companies like cisco to help make sure everyone is ready with the know-how we need for a new tomorrow. [ male announcer ] make sure america's ready. make sure you're ready. at devry.edu/knowhow. ♪ ♪
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>> jennifer: voters across the con try delivered a big win for president obama and for a variety of progressive social issues. several states stood on the side of civil rights by not standing in front of same-sex marriage. and in massachusetts, a measure to allow medical marijuana also
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won, but voters in oregon and arkansas went the other way and just said no. back with us to see what kind of progressive politics will play in the president's second term are correspondent keli goff, and christine pelosi, chair of the california democratic party women's caucus. christine let me start with you, president obama, progressive issues he should tackle. >> health care and climate change. we have to ensure that we actually get the health care that was promised under obamacare. make sure the state exchanges were set up. also in keeping with that it means fulfilling the promise to medicare and medicaid. we have to live healthier eyes
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and make sure our kids are covered. number two, climate. mother nature has spoken. we must listen. >> jennifer: i totally agree, kelly if you were to take the top two issues, what would it be? >> i'm going to pick chun. i would say civil rights particularly as it pertains to african-americans. it's not a secret that the president and his administration have shied away of using the word book. he is half white, but app pair roanly they missed that little detail. but his administration has
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really shied away from that. a lot of the republicans talk about the disappointment but they acknowledged that it was really hard to talk about the issues. >> like what? >> there is still very mef i have race-based discrimination when it comes to interviews. a white man with a criminal record is more substantially likely to get a callback than the black man. we very rarely hear the president talk about affirmative action. but we want to see that changed
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in the second term. >> jennifer: going back to christine, the specifics on how toe create jobs what congress can do. if you look at jobs for example, creating clean-energy jobs in urban areas. he has got to pass legislation to be able to do that. the question is can he get that done? >> i think he can. if you are talking about building infrastructure jobs, that will help black males, that is something that the nature of labor agree on. >> jennifer: right. and there should be bipartisan support on that.
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>> there should be. but we have to seize the jobs and there must be a commitment to doing that. >> jennifer: can we get republican support for addressing that in urban areas, and that will be the question of the president's leadership in the second term. you guys thank you so much for being here. christine and keli it's a good day in the kingdom, we'll say. up next karl rove promised the balance of power and then he took their money. this is "the war room" and it's only on current tv. do you share the sense of outrage that they're doing this, this corruption based on corruption based on corruption. >>i think that's an understatement, eliot. u>> i'm not prone tot. understatement, so explain to me
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why that is. i think the mob learned from wall st., not vice versa. [ forsythe ] we don't just come up here for the view up in alaska. it's the cleanest, clearest water. we find the best sweetest crab for red lobster that we can find. [ male announcer ] hurry in to red lobster's crabfest! the only time of year you can savor 5 succulent crab entrees all under 20 dollars. like a half-pound of tender snow crab paired with savory grilled shrimp, just 12.99. or our hearty crab and roasted garlic seafood bake. [ forsythe ] if i wouldn't put it on my table at home, i wouldn't bring it in. my name's jon forsythe and i sea food differently.
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